AGAIN WITH THE SMALL BALL THING

ESPN's Beckley Mason has re-upped on the smallball meme:

The Heat just won a championship with their best ball handler playing power forward. Now "small ball" hardly describes LeBron James, but the principles of small ball peppered the playoffs. Kevin Durant sliding to power forward and the Nuggets' two point guard lineups are just two examples.

As I have pointed out before, the 'rise of small ball' as an effective strategy is a fallacy. It's really just a 'rise of having LeBron James on your team' strategy.

Let's be fair, Mason isn't really writing an article about how small ball is all the rage right now, but rather a speculation on who invented small ball. But what's interesting is that the story that Beckley Mason quotes is also full of logical holes:

In an interview with CSN Bay Area, Nelson reflects on the inspiration for his small ball formula:

It all happened in the Celtic practices. What Auerbach would do when it got to midseason and practices were drudgery, he would play big guys against the small guys and the smalls would always win. You put Bill Russell on the other team and everybody else big, and put the smalls on the other and it wasn’t a close game as long as it was a full-court game. Now half-court you couldn’t do that. But full-court, the smalls always won, so I’m sure that was the start of it.

Again, there's nothing really surprising about this. I don't think anyone disputes that a team full of guards would crush a team full of centers in full court play. The question, however, is would a team of guards beat a team of 4 guard's and 1 center? Or 4 centers and one point guard? Or a traditional PG-SG-SF-PF-C combo?

Or, to put it another way, if Auerbach swapped John Havlicek out for one of the bigs, so that the 'bigs' don't have any trouble bringing the ball up the floor (or defending the primary ball handler), does the team with Bill Russell still lose? Because I'm guessing 'small ball' doesn't look like such an awesome counter-tactic to Havlicek penetrating and setting up any of his four bigs, while on the defensive end it's Havlicek pestering the ball + All-Your-Rebounds-Are-Belong-to-Us.

In other words, there's just nothing magical about small ball that makes it an effective strategy. Unless, of course, the other team is doing something stupid like playing 5 centers. Or, alternatively, if you have LeBron James.

The dominant 'strategy' revolves around the dominant players of the era. That player happens to be LeBron (and it does not hurt that Miami has plenty of good wing players to put next to him when he plays PF; if they didn't, small ball would suck). If LeBron were not in the league, there would be no small ball strategy that everyone thinks is the evolution of basketball. The 'strategy' has always been, and will always be, 'get the best player in the league and surround him with 4 competent guys' (with variants like 'get two of the top 10 players and surround them with 3 competent guys'). This pretty much always leads to contention. Historically, the game's best player is usually a dominant big man, but some freaks of nature (most notably Magic and LeBron) have blurred the line between big and wing.

It's not about the small ball.

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Don Pacifico

"Again, there's nothing really surprising about this. I don't think anyone disputes that a team full of guards would crush a team full of centers in full court play"

That is just plain wrong. Give me prime: Hakeem, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, KG and you take any 5 guards. It's not even close, the guards wouldn't be able to score

268 days ago

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Patrick Minton

Don, your inclusion of LG makes it sort of interesting but lol, no.

I'll take Magic, Jordan, Pippen, Clyde and Oscar. My guards will score plenty, usually on wide open layups. Your team will never get the ball past half court.

268 days ago

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Don Pacifico

Patrick,

LG?

You are totally wrong, there is no way to stop my bigs from passing the ball up court. A bunch of athletic and mobile 7ft studs aren't going to have any trouble getting up court against a host of 6'8 and under players. They are too big and too skilled to not be able to get the ball up court

They would essentially score on 100% of possessions.

Defensively you are not considering the freakishness of the 5 players I picked. Your insinuation of wide open layups is just wrong. There is a way to structure offensive sets that when my teams score at least 3 players will be back on defense.

My team would demolish your team.

You managed to not even pick the best team against my lineup and used Pippen who is not eligible because he is a SF.

The optimal lineup is Nash, CP3, Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Stephen Curry.

It wouldn't matter anyway but that team would at least have a chance by running super hot from 3pt land! As in like 70%+ from downtown for a chance to win

268 days ago

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Don Pacifico

Here is what your team is up against
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=garneke01&y1=2004&p2=olajuha01&y2=1993&p3=onealsh01&y3=2000&p4=abdulka01&y4=1972&p5=chambwi01&y5=1967


I used Wilt at 30 to show his passing skills. He was 3rd in the NBA in assists that year and led the NBA the very next season

268 days ago

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Hasani Davis

how about we give me 5 power forwards...
Anthony mason to handle, rasheed wallace,Dirk, tim duncan, Karl Malone.
I may wanna trade out dirk for a more mobile player like a PRIME larry johnson or a prime chris webber.. not talking about them over their careers, but in their PRIME when they were fast, ran the floor. not when they became older and started jump shooting and playing defense.

but this team could totally work. If I remember correctly Anthony mason used to be so agile they would put him on michael jordan when starks was in foul trouble. and mason was the frist REAL point forward i can remember. rasheed in his prime could shoot from range AND run the floor.

small ball is only spoken about now because we have this influx of tall guards and shooting bigmen. if this was 10 years ago, Durant would have been sat on the low block all through AAU, highschool and college and never learned to handle or shoot.

267 days ago

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Patrick Minton

LG == KG (typo)

Don, the idea that those 5 centers could pass the ball upcourt without dribbling vs a bunch of supremely athletic 6'5"+ guys is just plain nuts. Those men were studs, sure, but if as athletes they pale in comparison to the guards listed. Every one of my team has more than enough length and athleticism to deny your passing lanes until you get to the half court, which you'll do rarely.

Those big men were all good passers. You know why? They passed out of double teams in the low post with great efficacy. To claim that this translates into the kind of passing skills (and, way more importantly, cutting skills) required to break a full court press by some of the best all time NBA defenders is beyond laughable.

FWiW, your suggested lineup is awful because you're removing defense from the equation. Against that lineup, you really can just lob passes into the front court. As for my lineup...really, you're going to give me Magic but complain about Pippen? WTF? Fine, you got me, I'll have to give up Pippen. I'll take 2007 Kobe. Oh noes! I'm doomed!

267 days ago

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Don Pacifico

Patrick,

You sound foolish. Shaw inbound to Wilt, Wilt pass to Hakeem, Hakeem pass to Kareem, Kareem pass to KG, Kg pass to Shaq, Dunk.

Everytime

266 days ago

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Brett Gunter

Don,

You should watch some actual footage of your guys handling the ball. (Don't tell me you have, or I wouldn't need to post this.) Wilt is probably the best of the bunch, and he's only decent in the open court, if uncontested; with pressure defense, he's going to be a turnover machine. The only way your team can move the ball up court is to make PERFECT lob passes, over and over, and that's assuming your guys can ALL out-jump Clyde and MJ; even if they could in the 1st quarter, I'll bet they don't in the 4th.

266 days ago

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Luke Gregory Caruana

I LOVE these theoretical, never going to happen games!! I may be biased as a former guard but the guards would kill this. Even if you assume that the bigs don't turn the ball over a bunch getting the ball up court AND that they don't get killed in transition (off misses and makes) they still have a big issue in half court defense. Either they are giving up a bunch of backdoor cuts or (more likely) they are giving up a truckload of WIDE OPEN jumpshots. None of those guards are exactly noted marksmen but they would still make a ridiculously high percentage of uncontested jumpshots.

266 days ago

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Don Pacifico

Brett Gunter,

They wouldn't need to out jump anyone, they on average would have something like an 9+ inch standing reach advantage and all can jump very high.

You are underestimating the talent of Wilt, Shaw, Kareem, Hakeem and KG

266 days ago

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Don Pacifico

Luke,

If you think Wilt, Shaq, Kareem, Hakeem and KG would have an issue on defense in the half court, please, punch yourself in the face. There is nothing else I can say.

In regards to offense, they would score nearly 100% of the time.

Transition Defense wouldn't be an Issue.

Here are some draft combine numbers from recent players:
3/4 Court Sprint
Rose: 3.05
Westbrook: 3.08
Wade 3.08

Dwight Howard: 3.14
Emeka Okafor: 3.15
NENE: 3.19

Like I said, transition defense wouldn't be an issue for Wilt, Shaq, Kareem, Hakeem and KG

266 days ago

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Rafael Montalvo

I think what matters the most is that the Heat eschew positional labels and instead go for skill set. LeBron is a guy who in my opinion does NOT have an explicitly defined position (the label small forward does not do any of his skills justice) so they can afford to throw guys who play off of his strengths (particularly the ability to catch and shoot on a kick out after dribble penetration/posting up).

266 days ago

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Zachary Young

Great point, Rafael. That's the biggest reason I think Spoelstra is a good coach. His brotherhood speeches are kinda weird, but he just hauls off and lets his best players flourish without worrying about labels.

265 days ago

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Brett Gunter

Don,

According to Kenny Smith, Hakeem's PG on 2 championship teams, Dream told him anytime they switched on defense, he could cover Kenny's man for five seconds. FIVE. Kenny, rather incredulously, allowed that it was true (try to follow the point here)--Hakeem actually COULD cover some random guard for an AMAZING five seconds--and his audience, a panel of high-caliber ex-players, offered no dispute.

Let's recap: Hakeem, your quickest, most agile player (argue KG or Wilt if you want; the difference is minimal), claims he can guard a typical PG, in the halfcourt, for nearly one-fourth of the shot clock. Are you calling him a liar?

I love all 5 guys on your team--but they can't guard players who are vastly smaller and quicker. If they could, we'd see it happen in games--and we don't. Even a specimen like LeBron has limits; he'll guard Rondo--giving him a HUGE cushion, due to his questionable outside shot--for a few minutes. He doesn't get that assignment for the whole game. Same with Kobe; he's somewhat effective against Rondo--though he gives up ALL the passing lanes, and the lob--but, while he may WANT to guard a better shooting PG like CP3, he really can't stay with him. Paul will leave a RoadRunner-like vapor trail around him; imagine what he'd do to Shaq.

One last thing: When normally-civil people resort to rudeness in online conversations; it's frequently because of stupidity--their own, or their adversary's. You're coming very close to giving that behavior a standard-bearer.

265 days ago

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Jon C

Fascinating anecdote on Dream saying he could handle a guard for five seconds. I think it is beyond obvious that even the offered legends of the game big men could not bring the ball up against a full court press. I don't think you would need elite guards to beat these legends either. Just normal NBA guards would probably be enough.

The reason the Smalls would win would be the full court press. I do not think the bigs would have much trouble defending the half court. Now that contradicts the Dream statement. I understand that. But when Dream was saying he could only handle being on the island guarding a PG for five seconds, he didn't have a host of elite shot blockers behind him. Would the guards get open looks? Yes. But they wouldn't get open looks at the rim. Even if they burned their guy, an elite shot blocker would be rotating over. So I don't think there would be a ton of half court scoring going on. It would all have to be jumpers for the most part. Dream backed up by KG on his right and Shaq on his left might easily feel like he could handle a lot more than five seconds.

But with the centers unable to get past half court on a good percentage of plays, it wouldn't take a ton of offense to win that game. I wonder if any teams run this type of game in practice these days?

Note that in my regular pickup game, occasionally the teams become imbalanced where the big guys are all on one team. I'm one of the big guys at 6 4" (this is far from pro level, just rec league stuff). Even though we can bring the ball up (mainly because no one is in good enough shape to run a full court press for many possessions), we end up with very little outside shooting and it is a problem. If we have one of the real PGs, it changes everything and it can become imbalanced with the big men needing to get split up. But if we don't have PG, then we can never really put our size to its best effect.

264 days ago


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