WHAT POSITION? YOU DECIDE.

I get a lot of emails that say "Hey, player X played way more power forward than center". And my response is pretty much always, "yeah, I know but who do you trust?". What it boils down to is my positional data is not very accurate. This is because I do most of this sorta-kinda manually. I mean, basically, once a year I look at Yahoo, ESPN, and some others, and adjust positions but after that I do not monitor them on a game-by-game basis. I watch a lot of basketball but I cannot keep up with that.

There are plenty of solutions for that but they all cost more than I am currently willing to pay. So, instead, I'm going to crowd-source it to you guys!

On most pages where there are player stats, you should see stuff like this:

James PF

If you click on that (sorry, it won't work on this page, you'll have to try it out here), you should see a list of other possible positions, and suddenly you get to see what that player's wins produced (or points over par) stats were if all of their minutes were at that position. For instance, we see that if we compare Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett, Garnett appears to have had a better 2012:

  POS Min WP48 PoP48 Wins PTS DRB ORB REB AST TO BLK STL PF
Garnett PF 1864 .168 2.1 6.5 24.4 11.0 1.7 12.7 4.5 2.8 1.6 1.4 3.6
Duncan C 1634 .141 1.3 4.8 26.3 12.0 3.2 15.3 3.9 2.8 2.6 1.1 2.9
Average C C 1141 .099 0.0 2.4 17.9 9.0 4.2 13.2 2.3 2.7 2.0 1.3 4.8
Average PF PF 1307 .099 0.0 2.7 19.6 7.9 3.6 11.5 2.4 2.4 1.6 1.3 4.5

Until you realize that you should probably treat Garnett as a Center:

  POS Min WP48 PoP48 Wins PTS DRB ORB REB AST TO BLK STL PF
Garnett C 1864 .128 0.9 4.8 24.4 11.0 1.7 12.7 4.5 2.8 1.6 1.4 3.6
Duncan C 1634 .141 1.3 4.8 26.3 12.0 3.2 15.3 3.9 2.8 2.6 1.1 2.9
Average C C 1141 .099 0.0 2.4 17.9 9.0 4.2 13.2 2.3 2.7 2.0 1.3 4.8

Head on over to the comparison engine and try it out and let me know what you think.

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Tomi Mendel

excellent!

200 days ago

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John Glanton

Nice. Thank you! That will help with the combo guards.

How are you limiting the available positions for a player? By actual boxscore position data? It does look correct. For example, for Randy Foye it allows PG, SG, and SF. All correct, since Foye would occasionally play as part of a three guard lineup when VDN went small, and, well, at 6'3" he was the tall one.

200 days ago

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Patrick Minton

John,

Nothing so complicated. The rule is that they are eligible for "adjacent" positions, so an SG can be PG, SG, SF, an SF can be SG, SF, PF, etc.

This means you can of course cheat by making players like Garnett or Kevin Love be small forwards. I mean, you are only cheating yourself, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

200 days ago

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Xcavator

Great feature! Only it's glitched; if you keep clicking the ?, the player can be any position.

200 days ago

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Todd Parham

dude, there's something wrong with your engine. I'm unable to compare Monta Ellis's stats to that of a PG or SF when I click on the '?'

199 days ago


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